Coakley? Brown?


Meanwhile, as we wait for the result of the Senate race in Massachusetts, to see whether Obamacare will live or die, good ol’ Barney Frank, a Democrat naturally, wants to change the rules.

Of course he does. Weasel.

UPDATE

It’s Brown! Republican Scott Brown is Massachusetts’ new senator. And that means socialized health care, aka Obamacare, is all but dead…

…unless, it’s this Frank is alluding to. It used to be a two thirds majority needed, then it went down to 60/40 and now it seems the Dems want just a simple majority of 51/49 to be implemented for the big decisions.

Regardless, a state that has been blue (very blue!) for 40 years is now red. Obama and the Democrats have been sent a clear message.

Post has been updated.

UPDATE II

Politico has a couple of good news pieces/background here and here.

If you still crave more, try the Matt Drudge link in the blogroll, or, if you’re wondering who to blame, go here.

UPDATE III

You know, you gotta wonder but, did Brown win or did Coakley lose? Let’s not forget that Massachusetts is a big Catholic state. So why would Coakley say Catholics shouldn’t work in emergency rooms, or critisize Brown for arguing that Catholic nuns shouldn’t have to perform abortions? Or that Curt Schilling, the Boston Red Sox pitcher who ended Boston’s 80-odd year drought to win the World Series, was referred to as a Yankees fan(???). Or that, even after dropping 10 points (she was 30 ahead at one stage) she took a week’s vacation right in the middle of the campaign (hare and the tortoise, anyone?).

Oh yeah, and that as D.A., she kept an innocent man in jail just to further her political career.

Wow, just wow. And thanks to my American buddy on the phone.

UPDATE IV

Tim Blair has some good links, too.

UPDATE V

Credit (kind of) where credit’s due for poor old Barney.

Going forward, I hope there will be a serious effort to change the Senate rule which means that 59 votes are not enough to pass major legislation, but those are the rules by which the health care bill was considered, and it would be wrong to change them in the middle of the process.

And in more good news, from the above link, Frank has ruled out any weasley reconcilliation process that would allow the Dems to pass the bill on only 51 votes. Good… if not a pleasant surprise.

H/T The Corner.

And also from The Corner, Jay Nordlinger…

I will say merely that Massachusetts today showed that America is not quite ready for social democracy — not yet. Sweden will not arrive tomorrow. Maybe the next day. But not tomorrow, and that is heartening.

UPDATE VI

Although linked to by a miffed Dem supporter, here’s a site pointing out where supporters of Scott Brown and the Republicans can take their business.

Heh.

H/T thefrollickingmole over at Tizona’s.

UPDATE VII

Rasmussen Reports has the breakdown of who voted what. Sheesh. Coakley barely even had the Union workers on side!

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    • Carpe Jugulum
    • January 20th, 2010

    I’ve been out of the loop most of the day (curse you working for a living), but this is good news. That a traditional blue state can elect a conservative must say something about the direction and policies that the democritters are pursuing.

    It’s akin to the electorate saying ‘hold up o’messiah we’re not ready for the whole alinsky style socialism thing yet’.

    Its been a good news day.

      • bingbing
      • January 20th, 2010

      Hey brother. The round up is here. Look no further… and tell your friends!

      • Carpe Jugulum
      • January 20th, 2010

      I have friends? Where are they? I need a hug.

      I mean of course i have friends, steadfast bold and true friends……….., well i know some people, OK i said hi to some guy in a dumptster, but that still counts? maybe????

    • philjourdan
    • January 21st, 2010

    Actually Frank wants a 51-50 majority since Biden casts the tie breaker.

      • bingbing
      • January 21st, 2010

      What? A 50/50 vote, thus essentially it boils down to the executive? Makes sense but if you can hit us up with some links, that’d be great.

        • philjourdan
        • January 21st, 2010

        Sure – it is spelled out in the Constitution – Section 3 – The Senate: The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

        • philjourdan
        • January 21st, 2010

        Forgot the link. Sorry: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

    • bingbing
    • January 21st, 2010

    Well, I knew about that. The VP casting the decider if necessary. So what’s all this Barney Frank is going on about? And the 60/40 majority needed? A mate said that’s just for “important” bills.

      • philjourdan
      • January 21st, 2010

      The 60/40 is just a Senate rule (it use to be 67/33), and can be changed by a Senate vote (60/40 vote) if they want. There is nothing in the Constitution about the 60/40, but Democrats used it in the recent past to stop Bush from getting his Judicial Nominees confirmed. So if they do eliminate the rule, it may well come back to haunt them.

      Frank is not a member of the senate, so he does not really understand the implications. Changing rules work both ways and is the reason the republicans did not change things 4 years ago, nor that the democrats will likely change it now.

      Good night. Lunch time here.

        • Carpe Jugulum
        • January 21st, 2010

        Thanks Phil, that clears things up for me, you learn something new everyday.

        cheers

    • bingbing
    • January 21st, 2010

    Take your time. It’s past 1 in the morning here. Have to crash.

    No wonder another blogger queried whether I knew shit. Well, I know a bit – not even American – but it’d help to know more.

    • bingbing
    • January 21st, 2010

    And thanks.

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